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Limited Atonement? June 5, 2008

Posted by Jeremy in Thoughts and Theology, TULIP.
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This is an excerpt from the video Amazing Grace: The History and Theology of Calvinism.  It’s a great DVD if you are interested in ordering it you can get it from Monergism. I recommend checking it out.

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1. Jon D. - June 5, 2008

That guy at the end is pretty annoying… And I’m not sure about his argument. I’ll have to think about that some more. (And this coming from one who leans reformed.)

2. Jon D. - June 5, 2008

I messed up my url link… O:-)

3. Jeremy - June 6, 2008

I prefer to use the word particular redemption.

Biblical texts that teach Christ died for the “world” or for “all” do not contradict particular redemption. By the word “world”, the Bible often draws attention not to human demography, but the sinfulness of mankind. Christ died for a sinful world. B. B. Warfield comments on the meaning “world” in John 3:16, “It is not here a term of extension so much as a term of intensity. Its primary connotation is ethical, and the point of its employment is not to suggest that the world is so big that it takes a great deal of love to embrace it all, but that the world is so bad that it takes a great kind of love to love it at all, and much more to love it as God has loved it when he gave his Son for it.” (The Saviour of the World, Banner of Truth Trust, 1991, p. 120-121). John also wrote of Christ, “he himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world.” (1 John 2:2). John draws attention to the ethical meaning of world in 2:15-17 of this letter. But in the text quoted, the apostle wanted to show that Christ did not die for a privileged minority among the people of God, but for a whole world of lost sinners. This does not necessarily mean that he died for all human beings inclusively. But that Christ was the propitiation for the whole world extensively – for all peoples in this fallen world. Those who hold to limited atonement should glory in such statements rather than be embarrassed by them. This is our message, “And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent the Son as Saviour of the world.” (1 John 4:14).

There is also a really good article on this you might be interested to check out as you continue to think on this some more.


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